Comments on: Bill to Abolish Long-Gun Registry in Canada Passes Second Reading in the House of Commons http://informedvote.ca/2009/11/07/bill-to-abolish-long-gun-registry-in-canada-passes-second-reading-in-the-house-of-commons/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=bill-to-abolish-long-gun-registry-in-canada-passes-second-reading-in-the-house-of-commons Informed Vote (informedvote.ca) will keep Canadian voters informed on Canadian Politics such as Stephen Harper, Michael Ignatieff, Jack Layton, Liberals, Conservatives, NDP, Green, as well as foreign issues like the Israel palestine conflict and local issues like the CUPE strike Sun, 04 Dec 2011 07:31:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Hugh Grotelueschen http://informedvote.ca/2009/11/07/bill-to-abolish-long-gun-registry-in-canada-passes-second-reading-in-the-house-of-commons/comment-page-1/#comment-5233 Hugh Grotelueschen Wed, 24 Mar 2010 07:37:26 +0000 http://informedvote.ca/?p=1379#comment-5233 Looking through your own fears, I go along that we would need to all undertake much more caution of our-self. Looking through your own fears, I go along that we would need to all undertake much more caution of our-self.

]]> By: WTY http://informedvote.ca/2009/11/07/bill-to-abolish-long-gun-registry-in-canada-passes-second-reading-in-the-house-of-commons/comment-page-1/#comment-5163 WTY Mon, 08 Mar 2010 22:45:12 +0000 http://informedvote.ca/?p=1379#comment-5163 "But honestly I just don’t care. If you want to own a gun and don’t want to register it – move to Texas." Honestly, I don't care either. If you want to live in a totalitarian society move to China or Britain for that matter. The Great Canadian Divide. Liberty and Democracy vs Socialism and Dictatorship. West vs East. The priority on change should be the establishment of a border between Eastern and Western Canada. PS There is nothing wrong with Texas. Good Liberty Loving people, self -sufficient and proud. Beats the hell out of Ontario! “But honestly I just don’t care. If you want to own a gun and don’t want to register it – move to Texas.”

Honestly, I don’t care either. If you want to live in a totalitarian society move to China or Britain for that matter.

The Great Canadian Divide. Liberty and Democracy vs Socialism and Dictatorship. West vs East.

The priority on change should be the establishment of a border between Eastern and Western Canada.

PS There is nothing wrong with Texas. Good Liberty Loving people, self -sufficient and proud. Beats the hell out of Ontario!

]]> By: Darren http://informedvote.ca/2009/11/07/bill-to-abolish-long-gun-registry-in-canada-passes-second-reading-in-the-house-of-commons/comment-page-1/#comment-5162 Darren Mon, 08 Mar 2010 22:20:44 +0000 http://informedvote.ca/?p=1379#comment-5162 The gun registry is an appeasement tool and serves no real purpose in preventing crime. The gun registry is an appeasement tool and serves no real purpose in preventing crime.

]]> By: Ilsa http://informedvote.ca/2009/11/07/bill-to-abolish-long-gun-registry-in-canada-passes-second-reading-in-the-house-of-commons/comment-page-1/#comment-4905 Ilsa Tue, 02 Feb 2010 21:33:44 +0000 http://informedvote.ca/?p=1379#comment-4905 Hi. Very nice Blog. Not really what i have searched over Google, but thanks for the information. Can you email me back, please. Thanks so much. Hi. Very nice Blog. Not really what i have searched over Google, but thanks for the information. Can you email me back, please. Thanks so much.

]]> By: mike pavich http://informedvote.ca/2009/11/07/bill-to-abolish-long-gun-registry-in-canada-passes-second-reading-in-the-house-of-commons/comment-page-1/#comment-4556 mike pavich Mon, 04 Jan 2010 16:52:38 +0000 http://informedvote.ca/?p=1379#comment-4556 the long gun "Registry" is not what is saving lives, the proper storage requirements are. As it was pointed out repeatedly, every time a cop checks a lic plate, a hit goes to the long gun registry. I have dealt with guns most of my life, my grandfather taught me how to handle one, in a typically irish manner, if it was pointed in the wrong direction i got a cuff up side the head lol... i presently live east of Toronto, for most of life i lived in northern BC. Guns must be stored properly, I honestly believe, that if a gun is improperly stored, and someone uses it, for a suicide attempt, for crime or a kid playing with it and hurts themselves or someone else, the owner should be locked up and the key should be thrown away. Putting my name or someone elses name in a data base is not stopping anyone from using the damn weapon, locking the thing up, locking up the ammunition, putting it out of casual reach is what is saving lives. I might add, since the implementation of this law, I have seen far more attacks with baseball bats and knives then ever before. Lets face it people, guns dont kill people, people kill people. If a gun is not available, then they will use something else. I have to ask, whats next, registering knives, baseball bats, etc etc....?? the long gun “Registry” is not what is saving lives, the proper storage requirements are.
As it was pointed out repeatedly, every time a cop checks a lic plate, a hit goes to the long gun registry.
I have dealt with guns most of my life, my grandfather taught me how to handle one, in a typically irish manner, if it was pointed in the wrong direction i got a cuff up side the head lol… i presently live east of Toronto, for most of life i lived in northern BC. Guns must be stored properly, I honestly believe, that if a gun is improperly stored, and someone uses it, for a suicide attempt, for crime or a kid playing with it and hurts themselves or someone else, the owner should be locked up and the key should be thrown away. Putting my name or someone elses name in a data base is not stopping anyone from using the damn weapon, locking the thing up, locking up the ammunition, putting it out of casual reach is what is saving lives. I might add, since the implementation of this law, I have seen far more attacks with baseball bats and knives then ever before.

Lets face it people, guns dont kill people, people kill people. If a gun is not available, then they will use something else.
I have to ask, whats next, registering knives, baseball bats, etc etc….??

]]> By: Ron http://informedvote.ca/2009/11/07/bill-to-abolish-long-gun-registry-in-canada-passes-second-reading-in-the-house-of-commons/comment-page-1/#comment-4324 Ron Thu, 17 Dec 2009 23:27:11 +0000 http://informedvote.ca/?p=1379#comment-4324 Alison, you obviously don't own guns, or use guns. I'll go out on a limb and say you probably live in a major city and far from a place that guns are used regularly and for the most part safely. It is pretty hard to convince law abiding Canadian citizens that their guns are a threat to Canadian society. Mind you the average Canadian doesn't live in Toronto in fear of being a victim of some gang banger (who most likely is economically disadvantaged) from Jane and Finch or Scarborough. The question here isn't long guns but illegal handguns. Thats ILLEGAL handguns. Hundreds of Canadians own and use legal handguns everyday and do not pose a threat to their fellow citizens. I am truely sorry that 'you are appalled that this bill looks set to pass, as it has made it through its second reading and is heading to committee.' Maybe it is time for you to get on the internet and find yourself a country that doesn't allow guns and move there. As for Canadians who want to own guns and not have to register them (long guns) as handguns have had to be registered since 1935, being told they should move to Texas, well Canadians are now trying to right a wrong and abolish the longgun registry as it just is a waste of time and money. Oh, yeah before I forget, I have been a peace officer for 8 years so far. Merry Christmas. Alison, you obviously don’t own guns, or use guns. I’ll go out on a limb and say you probably live in a major city and far from a place that guns are used regularly and for the most part safely. It is pretty hard to convince law abiding Canadian citizens that their guns are a threat to Canadian society. Mind you the average Canadian doesn’t live in Toronto in fear of being a victim of some gang banger (who most likely is economically disadvantaged) from Jane and Finch or Scarborough. The question here isn’t long guns but illegal handguns. Thats ILLEGAL handguns. Hundreds of Canadians own and use legal handguns everyday and do not pose a threat to their fellow citizens. I am truely sorry that ‘you are appalled that this bill looks set to pass, as it has made it through its second reading and is heading to committee.’ Maybe it is time for you to get on the internet and find yourself a country that doesn’t allow guns and move there. As for Canadians who want to own guns and not have to register them (long guns) as handguns have had to be registered since 1935, being told they should move to Texas, well Canadians are now trying to right a wrong and abolish the longgun registry as it just is a waste of time and money. Oh, yeah before I forget, I have been a peace officer for 8 years so far. Merry Christmas.

]]> By: MIKE http://informedvote.ca/2009/11/07/bill-to-abolish-long-gun-registry-in-canada-passes-second-reading-in-the-house-of-commons/comment-page-1/#comment-4227 MIKE Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:03:57 +0000 http://informedvote.ca/?p=1379#comment-4227 It seems that every time I read/see a blog, article or or other form of commentary on the abolishing of the long gun registry it quotes the 3.2 million (number changes with the reporting) that the police check the registry. Think about it people. If the police were checking it in relation to a crime having been committed this country would look and sound like a WW2 movie! A routine traffic stop creates a hit on the data base. The registry is so full of errors that any information taken from it is suspect anyway! It seems that every time I read/see a blog, article or or other form of commentary on the abolishing of the long gun registry it quotes the 3.2 million (number changes with the reporting) that the police check the registry. Think about it people. If the police were checking it in relation to a crime having been committed this country would look and sound like a WW2 movie! A routine traffic stop creates a hit on the data base. The registry is so full of errors that any information taken from it is suspect anyway!

]]> By: lggrflem http://informedvote.ca/2009/11/07/bill-to-abolish-long-gun-registry-in-canada-passes-second-reading-in-the-house-of-commons/comment-page-1/#comment-3972 lggrflem Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:50:29 +0000 http://informedvote.ca/?p=1379#comment-3972 The POL, PAL & FAC is a source the RCMP can use to access info about the gun owner. To have a long gun registration in my opinion is another way to get more revenue out of the honest tax payer The POL, PAL & FAC is a source the RCMP can use to access info about the gun owner. To have a long gun registration in my opinion is another way to get more revenue out of the honest tax payer

]]> By: BoB http://informedvote.ca/2009/11/07/bill-to-abolish-long-gun-registry-in-canada-passes-second-reading-in-the-house-of-commons/comment-page-1/#comment-3954 BoB Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:29:07 +0000 http://informedvote.ca/?p=1379#comment-3954 g clarke, What are you writing about? Have a look at this article published recently. http://v1.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20091109.MACGREGOR09ART2249/TPStory/TPComment/ I don't know if it will bolster your arguement here or, prove that what you have written is false. But the one thing I think you and I could agree on is your statement: "It is definitely one of Urban people who wish to own fire arms without government control" and I know some of those people are carrying unregisted firearms coming across the border - bought with money tainted by illicit drug sales - and usually found at or near the scene of the shootings in our larger metropolitan centres. Those guns are surely owned by city folk. They are definitely most times, if not all times, never registered. Why I bet some of those owners never even received a PAL! Huh, I'll raise that bet and wager on top of it too, that some of those owners never even put in for a PAL! g clarke,
What are you writing about?
Have a look at this article published recently. http://v1.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20091109.MACGREGOR09ART2249/TPStory/TPComment/
I don’t know if it will bolster your arguement here or, prove that what you have written is false.
But the one thing I think you and I could agree on is your statement:
“It is definitely one of Urban people who wish to own fire arms without government control” and I know some of those people are carrying unregisted firearms coming across the border – bought with money tainted by illicit drug sales – and usually found at or near the scene of the shootings in our larger metropolitan centres.
Those guns are surely owned by city folk. They are definitely most times, if not all times, never registered.
Why I bet some of those owners never even received a PAL!
Huh, I’ll raise that bet and wager on top of it too, that some of those owners never even put in for a PAL!

]]> By: g clarke http://informedvote.ca/2009/11/07/bill-to-abolish-long-gun-registry-in-canada-passes-second-reading-in-the-house-of-commons/comment-page-1/#comment-3945 g clarke Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:13:15 +0000 http://informedvote.ca/?p=1379#comment-3945 The gun debate issue is not as published , between Rural/Urban population. It is definitely one of Urban people who wish to own fire arms without government control, and of course a few Rural folks as well. Canada's population (2001) Rural=20.4%....Urban=79.6%... Only in the district of Nunavut does the Rural population exceed that of Urban. When we look at our three major prairie provinces we find the following....Rural=27.8%...Urban=72.1%, as such this indicates were the majority of weapons are now located. Let us approach the subject from this aspect! The gun debate issue is not as published , between Rural/Urban population. It is definitely one of Urban people who wish to own fire arms without government control, and of course a few Rural folks as well.
Canada’s population (2001) Rural=20.4%….Urban=79.6%…
Only in the district of Nunavut does the Rural population exceed that of Urban.
When we look at our three major prairie provinces we find the following….Rural=27.8%…Urban=72.1%, as such this indicates were the majority of weapons are now located.
Let us approach the subject from this aspect!

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