<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: The Middle East Conflict &#8211; My Two Cents Worth</title>
	<atom:link href="http://informedvote.ca/2009/01/02/the-middle-east-conflict-my-two-cents-worth/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://informedvote.ca/2009/01/02/the-middle-east-conflict-my-two-cents-worth/?utm_source=rss&#038;utm_medium=rss&#038;utm_campaign=the-middle-east-conflict-my-two-cents-worth</link>
	<description>Informed Vote (informedvote.ca) will keep Canadian voters informed on Canadian Politics such as Stephen Harper, Michael Ignatieff, Jack Layton, Liberals, Conservatives, NDP, Green, as well as foreign issues like the Israel palestine conflict and local issues like the CUPE strike</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 07:31:29 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: EEEK</title>
		<link>http://informedvote.ca/2009/01/02/the-middle-east-conflict-my-two-cents-worth/comment-page-1/#comment-533</link>
		<dc:creator>EEEK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 05:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://informedvote.ca/?p=382#comment-533</guid>
		<description>Mike Sheps, it is exactly what Chomsky says (from memory) and I am not copying it anymore than anyone else repeating the non-sense itself is copying it from another. It happens to be the truth and you didn&#039;t take up any part of it other than some remote claims, but those are meaningless. I suspect they are only brought on, as I have seen, from the use by Israel.

I am absolutely not talking about a theoretical concept. It&#039;s the other way around. If you are claiming a &quot;right&quot; then you are obligated to display it in some fashion to claim. You have done nothing of the sort. You didn&#039;t even state yourself whether the practice is actual because I suspect you know it is not.

I explained the &quot;practical&quot; aspect and gave clear examples.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike Sheps, it is exactly what Chomsky says (from memory) and I am not copying it anymore than anyone else repeating the non-sense itself is copying it from another. It happens to be the truth and you didn&#8217;t take up any part of it other than some remote claims, but those are meaningless. I suspect they are only brought on, as I have seen, from the use by Israel.</p>
<p>I am absolutely not talking about a theoretical concept. It&#8217;s the other way around. If you are claiming a &#8220;right&#8221; then you are obligated to display it in some fashion to claim. You have done nothing of the sort. You didn&#8217;t even state yourself whether the practice is actual because I suspect you know it is not.</p>
<p>I explained the &#8220;practical&#8221; aspect and gave clear examples.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: EEEK</title>
		<link>http://informedvote.ca/2009/01/02/the-middle-east-conflict-my-two-cents-worth/comment-page-1/#comment-532</link>
		<dc:creator>EEEK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 05:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://informedvote.ca/?p=382#comment-532</guid>
		<description>Israel is the aggressor under law, it commits an illegal occupation, and illegal deprivation of vital resources and commits violent acts of aggression. Israel broke the truce persistently, but notably provoking rocket fire retaliation when Israel killed Gazans on November 4th. Even between that time and the start of the massacre, during which rockets had killed no one, Israel was killing more Gazans including children on December 2nd I believe.

Israel has no right to commit aggression. There is a clear alternative, and it is even persistently recognized by Israel&#039;s supposed antagonist, Hamas. Israel must end it&#039;s illegal crimes and part of that is the siege and illegal collective punishment of Gazans, and brutally despicable occupation of Palestine. The reasons you site for Hamas&#039;s violence, a lack to recognize Israel&#039;s &quot;right to exist&quot; is ridiculous. It&#039;s Israel&#039;s decades long crimes and recent crimes.

What you call the &quot;facts&quot;, one side attacking civilians and the other attacking terrorists, is blatantly not fact. Israel overwhelmingly kills more civilians. There is nothing which indicates different other than Israel&#039;s word, and if we accept the intent and word of those who kill, than you can&#039;t just extend that rational to Israel and must extend it to other killers intents too. A tricky line to follow, especially if you apply it to Hamas&#039;s intention. Facts, are Israel kills more by extremely disparaging numbers, even outside the recent massacre.

Your &quot;bias&quot; free analogy missed one component to be bias-less, and that is an entire other side.  Hamas are religious extremists, and former terrorists turned quasi-government, but they are certainly not firing rockets for the reasons you&#039;d like to think or your imagined analogy leaves out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Israel is the aggressor under law, it commits an illegal occupation, and illegal deprivation of vital resources and commits violent acts of aggression. Israel broke the truce persistently, but notably provoking rocket fire retaliation when Israel killed Gazans on November 4th. Even between that time and the start of the massacre, during which rockets had killed no one, Israel was killing more Gazans including children on December 2nd I believe.</p>
<p>Israel has no right to commit aggression. There is a clear alternative, and it is even persistently recognized by Israel&#8217;s supposed antagonist, Hamas. Israel must end it&#8217;s illegal crimes and part of that is the siege and illegal collective punishment of Gazans, and brutally despicable occupation of Palestine. The reasons you site for Hamas&#8217;s violence, a lack to recognize Israel&#8217;s &#8220;right to exist&#8221; is ridiculous. It&#8217;s Israel&#8217;s decades long crimes and recent crimes.</p>
<p>What you call the &#8220;facts&#8221;, one side attacking civilians and the other attacking terrorists, is blatantly not fact. Israel overwhelmingly kills more civilians. There is nothing which indicates different other than Israel&#8217;s word, and if we accept the intent and word of those who kill, than you can&#8217;t just extend that rational to Israel and must extend it to other killers intents too. A tricky line to follow, especially if you apply it to Hamas&#8217;s intention. Facts, are Israel kills more by extremely disparaging numbers, even outside the recent massacre.</p>
<p>Your &#8220;bias&#8221; free analogy missed one component to be bias-less, and that is an entire other side.  Hamas are religious extremists, and former terrorists turned quasi-government, but they are certainly not firing rockets for the reasons you&#8217;d like to think or your imagined analogy leaves out.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Mike Sheps</title>
		<link>http://informedvote.ca/2009/01/02/the-middle-east-conflict-my-two-cents-worth/comment-page-1/#comment-531</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Sheps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 05:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://informedvote.ca/?p=382#comment-531</guid>
		<description>The only non-sense on this page is you looking up Noam Chomsky&#039;s viewpoint on &quot;right to exist&quot; and retyping it in your comment. 

Many countries in the past have claimed or denied other countries a right to exist. 

Egypt recognized Israel&#039;s right to exist.
The Palestinians feel their state has a right to exist. 
Turkey, and other countries, too, have all made comments about rights to exist. 

You are taking a theoretical concept and trying to apply it to this situation but really need to look at the practicle aspect, which you conveniently keep avoiding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only non-sense on this page is you looking up Noam Chomsky&#8217;s viewpoint on &#8220;right to exist&#8221; and retyping it in your comment. </p>
<p>Many countries in the past have claimed or denied other countries a right to exist. </p>
<p>Egypt recognized Israel&#8217;s right to exist.<br />
The Palestinians feel their state has a right to exist.<br />
Turkey, and other countries, too, have all made comments about rights to exist. </p>
<p>You are taking a theoretical concept and trying to apply it to this situation but really need to look at the practicle aspect, which you conveniently keep avoiding.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: EEEK</title>
		<link>http://informedvote.ca/2009/01/02/the-middle-east-conflict-my-two-cents-worth/comment-page-1/#comment-529</link>
		<dc:creator>EEEK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 04:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://informedvote.ca/?p=382#comment-529</guid>
		<description>Most of what you said is non-sense and I will gladly tell you why.

Israel doesn&#039;t have a right to exist. Neither does Palestine, Canada, or any state for that matter because there is no such thing as an existence right. If you just think about it for a moment you will not only realize that you can&#039;t find this non-existent right, but it doesn&#039;t even make sense. States are democratic institutions and are mailable. There is nothing that says a state must exist. As Canadians we can legally dismantle Canada if we so choose. There is nothing that says Canada must exist. Does Quebec have a right to exist as a sovereign state, or does Canada have a right to exist within Quebec as a sovereign state? There just is no such thing as a right to exist over democratic institutions. The idea is one counter to democracy.

Oddly only one state in the world claims this &quot;right to exist&quot;, and that is Israel. Not surprising is that only one people in the world are expected to recognize this as well, and that is the Palestinians. This bizarre set-up of propaganda is so effective that, not only does it overcome the barriers of not-existing, as I mentioned, but also even if true would be false. Israel doesn&#039;t have any right at all to annex the Palestinian state. Israel&#039;s state borders are completely illegally under numerous international law and rulings. Israel doesn&#039;t have a right to exist where it currently is. That&#039;s the law.

The entire thing is a fascinating achievement in propaganda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of what you said is non-sense and I will gladly tell you why.</p>
<p>Israel doesn&#8217;t have a right to exist. Neither does Palestine, Canada, or any state for that matter because there is no such thing as an existence right. If you just think about it for a moment you will not only realize that you can&#8217;t find this non-existent right, but it doesn&#8217;t even make sense. States are democratic institutions and are mailable. There is nothing that says a state must exist. As Canadians we can legally dismantle Canada if we so choose. There is nothing that says Canada must exist. Does Quebec have a right to exist as a sovereign state, or does Canada have a right to exist within Quebec as a sovereign state? There just is no such thing as a right to exist over democratic institutions. The idea is one counter to democracy.</p>
<p>Oddly only one state in the world claims this &#8220;right to exist&#8221;, and that is Israel. Not surprising is that only one people in the world are expected to recognize this as well, and that is the Palestinians. This bizarre set-up of propaganda is so effective that, not only does it overcome the barriers of not-existing, as I mentioned, but also even if true would be false. Israel doesn&#8217;t have any right at all to annex the Palestinian state. Israel&#8217;s state borders are completely illegally under numerous international law and rulings. Israel doesn&#8217;t have a right to exist where it currently is. That&#8217;s the law.</p>
<p>The entire thing is a fascinating achievement in propaganda.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Israel Threatens a Disproportionate Attack on Hamas &#124; Political News and blogs on Stephen Harper, Canadian Politics and Voting on Informed Vote &#124; InformedVote.ca</title>
		<link>http://informedvote.ca/2009/01/02/the-middle-east-conflict-my-two-cents-worth/comment-page-1/#comment-481</link>
		<dc:creator>Israel Threatens a Disproportionate Attack on Hamas &#124; Political News and blogs on Stephen Harper, Canadian Politics and Voting on Informed Vote &#124; InformedVote.ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 03:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://informedvote.ca/?p=382#comment-481</guid>
		<description>[...] It Happened and What You Need to Know Before I jump into the current conflict and escalation of...The Middle East Conflict - My Two Cents Worth  Canada, along with the most powerful nations in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] It Happened and What You Need to Know Before I jump into the current conflict and escalation of&#8230;The Middle East Conflict &#8211; My Two Cents Worth  Canada, along with the most powerful nations in [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: canada</title>
		<link>http://informedvote.ca/2009/01/02/the-middle-east-conflict-my-two-cents-worth/comment-page-1/#comment-160</link>
		<dc:creator>canada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 06:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://informedvote.ca/?p=382#comment-160</guid>
		<description>100% right.
The thing is that this is not Israel war, it&#039;s the all world war,
Israel is doing the all countries work by fighting the terrorists.
but very soon all other countries will suffer from the Islamic terror, to kill
all people that are not muslims.

Thanks to Israel for what they are doing !

And don&#039;t forget, they (Hamas) do kill their own people (children and woman )to show the world that it is Israel work. and put them in the most denger places in the front.

They are using our moral in their favor. and they realy don&#039;t mind and intend to kill you chilldren.

Wake Up, The war soon be here !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>100% right.<br />
The thing is that this is not Israel war, it&#8217;s the all world war,<br />
Israel is doing the all countries work by fighting the terrorists.<br />
but very soon all other countries will suffer from the Islamic terror, to kill<br />
all people that are not muslims.</p>
<p>Thanks to Israel for what they are doing !</p>
<p>And don&#8217;t forget, they (Hamas) do kill their own people (children and woman )to show the world that it is Israel work. and put them in the most denger places in the front.</p>
<p>They are using our moral in their favor. and they realy don&#8217;t mind and intend to kill you chilldren.</p>
<p>Wake Up, The war soon be here !!!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Suleman</title>
		<link>http://informedvote.ca/2009/01/02/the-middle-east-conflict-my-two-cents-worth/comment-page-1/#comment-139</link>
		<dc:creator>Suleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 10:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://informedvote.ca/?p=382#comment-139</guid>
		<description>If we are giving analogies... then here is one for thought.

Let us imagine that a band of people come into your home heavily armed and take it over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we are giving analogies&#8230; then here is one for thought.</p>
<p>Let us imagine that a band of people come into your home heavily armed and take it over.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Finance Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; More Destruction From Our Good Friend Jim</title>
		<link>http://informedvote.ca/2009/01/02/the-middle-east-conflict-my-two-cents-worth/comment-page-1/#comment-97</link>
		<dc:creator>Finance Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; More Destruction From Our Good Friend Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 09:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://informedvote.ca/?p=382#comment-97</guid>
		<description>[...] The Middle East Conflict - My Two Cents Worth - January 2nd, 2009 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Middle East Conflict &#8211; My Two Cents Worth &#8211; January 2nd, 2009 [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Alon</title>
		<link>http://informedvote.ca/2009/01/02/the-middle-east-conflict-my-two-cents-worth/comment-page-1/#comment-91</link>
		<dc:creator>Alon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 06:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://informedvote.ca/?p=382#comment-91</guid>
		<description>I truly agree with everything you say. How is it Israel&#039;s fault if they are being bombed every day. Today the news showed proof that Hamas is storing weapons in &quot;Mosques&quot;, but some reporters insist that Israel is targeting civilian infrastructure. I really think that the US and Canada need to step up or shut up. I had enough of the reports saying we need a ceasefire. It won&#039;t happen, now we need to figure out the next best option, getting rid of terrorism!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I truly agree with everything you say. How is it Israel&#8217;s fault if they are being bombed every day. Today the news showed proof that Hamas is storing weapons in &#8220;Mosques&#8221;, but some reporters insist that Israel is targeting civilian infrastructure. I really think that the US and Canada need to step up or shut up. I had enough of the reports saying we need a ceasefire. It won&#8217;t happen, now we need to figure out the next best option, getting rid of terrorism!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

